Wednesday, December 10, 2008

'Clayton's Universalism'

Back in the 80s in Australia there was an advert for a beer called 'Clayton's'. If i remember correctly it advertised the beer as "the beer you're having when you're not having a beer".

I've just thought of a new adapted usage for this kind of phrase.

"Perichoresis: The universalim you're having when you're not having Universalism."

I came across the Perichoresis movement in the late 90s. I learnt some great things from the books of Baxter Kruger etc and am still grateful for what i learnt - especially the grand vision of how deep and huge the impact of the Incarnation is, and about the true relational idea of God - through discovering that the Trinitarian concept is fundamentally about relationship.

However, as time went on i gradually began to see inconsistencies in the Perichoresis movement. They would talk as universalists yet always deny they were teaching this. On the one hand it teaches that all humanity IS seated at the right hand of the Father through Christ and is reconciled to Him, yet would say that not All humanity is saved. Or there would be word games - ie - they would say that everyone is saved - but they can still experience hell, cos God respects their free will' etc.......Huh!? There was a lot of talk about 'assurance' yet in the end i found it opened up the door to potentially more 'unassurance'. There can be no assurance if any part of the salvation story is finally up to me.

In the end i found that they merely shifted the goal posts back further....there were still goal posts! And I could only come to the conclusion that it's message was 'Glorified Arminianism'.

I can still enjoy the books put out by Perichoresis, but only if i read them as they appear to be - seeing all creation as actually redeemed and that all humanity is really saved.

I hate labels but if i were to have one it would be some kind of almalgamation known as 'CalBarthian' Believer in Universal Salvation'

3 comments:

  1. "There can be no assurance if any part of the salvation story is finally up to me." - How true is that - great line!

    The true nature of sin is that it blinds us to our "lost-ness". We do not even know that we are lost! So how can we contribute to our being found? We cannot.

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  2. I agree with you on Baxter, but once a bridge is built you cannot stop people from crossing, even if you stay on the bank. Its sort of like the writing of Robert Capon, so wonderful, yet that little door of rejection is open. I am still greatful for his work and very aware of the pressure of being reformed and calvinistic and trying to stay associated with your past.

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  3. Thanks for your replies Peter and Don

    Yes, if we are lost and sin blinds us then we ARE TRULY dependant on a SAVIOUR. When someone is saved from drowning they don't lift themselves onto a boat. They have NO energy to do so. I nearly drowned when i was 7 - there was no way i had any energy left to have any part in my salvation - those who saved me did ALL the work!! It's all of Grace!

    And Don - i agree - baxter's work and books are great and a definitely a bridge - I would have not been able to handle 'Universal Reconciliation' all at once - Perichoresis provided the right path to this, but i guess i am simply letting out some frustration at the lack of consistency i see within the Perichoresis movement.

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